Civil rights groups determined to axe Hawks boss they believe lacks integrity

An application by the Helen Suzman Foundation and freedom Under Law to overturn the appointment of Berning Ntlemeza, head of the Hawks has been lodged with the Pretoria High Court. Director of the Suzman Foundation Francis Antonie talks to Stephen Grootes about the case.

We don't believe he is a fit and proper person to be running the Hawks.

Francis Antonie, Director of The Helen Suzman Foundation

last year in the Sibiya case the judge had ruled that Mr Ntlemeza had lacked integrity, had lied under oath. This is not the sort of person we want to be running a very important state institution that must investigate corruption. Lying is a form of corruption.

Francis Antonie, Director The Helen Suzman Foundation

Why did the Police Minister appoint him if there were question marks around Ntlemeza's integrity?

The Police Minister's reasons were that he had thirty years experience, and full confidence in him. Which means the minister didn't apply his mind to the matter.

Francis Antonie, Director The Helen Suzman Foundation

Given what the Hawks have been doing since he has been, first acting head, and then head of the Hawks, does not instill much confidence to act independently, and not to act at the behest of his masters.

Francis Antonie, Director The Helen Suzman Foundation

Antonie says that if Ntlemeza is removed from office, all his initiatives will have to be scrutinised.

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