Author and rugby coach John Dobson set out on a journey to write a book about Apartheid-era atrocities, and those who took the fall. He found it disturbing that someone like Eugene de Kock was jailed for 212 years in a maximum security prison complex, while those who issued the orders were never prosecuted.
In conducting his research for his book, he got to know the man dubbed by the media as "Prime Evil", and found out that he's not the racist monster people had assumed him to be.
Dobson says he found de Kock to be very softly spoken, polite, and respectful, and what stood out for him was his lack of appreciation for race, citing an example where de Kock asked to be moved away from right wing factions at C-Max prison.
Listen to Kieno Kammies' interview with John Dobson below: