Does God exist? A debate

Eusebius McKaiser hosted a heated debate on the existence of God with University of Cape Town lecturer of critical thinking and ethics Jacques Rousseau and director of RZIM Zacharias Trust SA Mahlatse Winston Mashua.

Mashua says he believes in God and that the Christian belief is true.

I have had an experienced with His life changing power and continue to experience His presence.

Mahlatse Winston Mashua, director of RZIM Zacharias Trust SA

I understand the limitations of that in telling you that experience or telling you that God exists.

Mahlatse Winston Mashua, director of RZIM Zacharias Trust SA

Mashua explains that when he was young he witnessed something that led him 'to experience what I would only be able to explain as the presence of Christ himself'.

Rousseau says there is very little historical evidence that God exists outside of the bible writings. He argues that people debate the subject in a circular fashion and use the original bible to prove the point of God's existence.

The odds that he does are sufficiently small that we would ordinarily call it a no.

Jacques Rousseau, UCT lecturer of critical thinking and ethics

Those heartfelt sincere stories of personal growth or satisfaction or whatever it might be, are anthropologically wonderfully interesting but they don't add up to the evidence.

Jacques Rousseau, UCT lecturer of critical thinking and ethics

I don't find the God question that interesting, but what I find interesting is what people do motivated by belief or lack of believe. I care more about behavior. Religion is more interesting when it causes people to do harm or good.

Jacques Rousseau, UCT lecturer of critical thinking and ethics

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