[WATCH] Eusebius on 'Winnie' doccie and forgiveness

The award-winning documentary 'Winnie' aired last night on eNCA and sparked a huge debate on social media.

Eusebius McKaiser reflects on the documentary and some of the issues that emerged from it.

McKaiser says one of the takeaways from the documentary, is the reminder that the media is exceptionally powerful. An ex-security policeman during apartheid Vic McPherson, explains that there were journalists that worked for the Nationalist government.

I would love to know who some of the 40 journalists were.

Eusebius McKaiser, show host

McKaiser further says the documentary highlighted the shortcomings of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. He says Archbishop Desmond Tutu has moral stature like no other person in South Africa.

One thing we need to grapple with is the is the lie that because the TRC was not a judicial process, and that if someone appeared before it, the words that have been used by Archbishop Tutu will not have any significant legal implications. In a sense that's true that it was a judicial trial.

Eusebius McKaiser, show host

READ: 'We pushed propaganda against Winnie and set her up'

But Mama Winnie was spot on when she said she was put on trial.

Eusebius McKaiser, show host

Head of the Missing Person's Task Team at NPA Madeleine Fullard called in during the open line and explained that the TRC hearings into the Mandela Football Club looked at almost 30 cases. She adds that it is unfortunate that only Stompie Seipei's murder became the public focus.

The public narrative focused on Stompie as if the request for an apology was around Stompie. And in fact, the appeal was for her (Winnie) to look at the broader picture of all the killings that happened around the Mandela Football Club.

Madeleine Fullard, Head of the Missing Person's Task Team at NPA

Fullard says there are a lot of names that have been lost because the focus was on Stompie. She further says the families of those people have been written out of the story.

We have exhumed four bodies related to the activities of the football club including Lolo Sono and Siboniso Tshabalala. And those families never received an apology from Winnie.

Madeleine Fullard, Head of the Missing Person's Task Team at NPA

Fullard also worked as a researcher during the TRC.

She describes gruelling testimony from victims' families given at the TRC about their interactions with Madikizela-Mandela's in relation to their missing children.

The father of Lolo Sono, Nicodemus Sono - pleaded with Winnie for an hour in the car. Lolo was in the vehicle where he was severely beaten. In fact, we found fractures on his skull just as his father described. He pleaded with Winnie to let Lolo go. This was in his testimony to the TRC. She said, 'no, you will see what the movement does with traitors.' And she drove away with Lolo and Lolo was never seen again. What is the ethical responsibility between Winnie and Nicodemus and the Sono family? What is the moral accountability there? That is what the family pleaded for in the hearing...and that is what Archbishop Tutu tried to pick up on in the TRC.

Madeleine Fullard, Head of the Missing Person's Task Team at NPA

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