Human Settlements MEC in the Western Cape, Bonginkosi Madikizela says "the ANC needs lessons" on how different grants are spent, as well as numbers and processes.
He accuses President Cyril Ramaphosa of misleading the residents of Delft while he was campaigning in the area last week, telling residents that the Democratic Alliance has failed to spend R1.7 billion allocated for housing.
Madikizela insists that the Human Settlement Department has spent all of its allocated budget since 2009.
Ramaphosa deliberately misled people when he said that we turned back housing money.— Bonginkosi Madikizela, Human Settlements MEC - WC Government
Madikizela says the president must have been referring to the challenges with the urban settlement budget in the City of Cape Town.
It is not true that R1.7 billion was not spent. There is a difference between the money that was rolled over and the money that was not spent.— Bonginkosi Madikizela, Human Settlements MEC - WC Government
The rollover is much better than stealing the money.— Bonginkosi Madikizela, Human Settlements MEC - WC Government
The African National Congress's Xolani Sotashe challenged Madikizela's comment that the Urban Development Settlement grant does not work in isolation from the Housing Development grant.
He says Madikizela's argument that money was rolled over because of gangsterism in the area where they were building houses is just scapegoating.
When the DA fails to deliver, they always look for something to blame it on.— Xolani Sotashe, Leader of the ANC - Western Cape
Sotashe says that the correct figure not spent is over R 2 billion, not R1.7 billion, but Madikizela denies these allegations.
He says the City's fiscal year ends in June and the figures the ANC is currently quoting are untrue.
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