The Friday Stand-In 2016

It takes a crisis to trigger transformation - Zama Ndlovu

Columnist, author and former Business Day editor Songezo Zibi looked at South Africa's history and how it has contributed to the challenges the country faces today.

He spoke to Deputy MD of Livity SA and founding MD of Youth Lab, Zama Ndlovu about the issues facing South Africans.

Ndlovu says the term nation building has lost its meaning.

Let's start with the assumption that we as South Africans are damaged by a society that we come from. Then the question becomes, how does a damaged society construct something different?

Zama Ndlovu, Deputy MD of Livity SA and founding MD of Youth Lab

The starting point is to be quite clear about how flawed we are because we come from a violent history.

Zama Ndlovu, Deputy MD of Livity SA and founding MD of Youth Lab

Zibi asked Ndlovu if she agrees with those who say 'It has to get worse before it gets better'. Ndlovu says South Africa needs a crisis and has to take advantage of it. She reflected on what is happening in Fees Must Fall protests.

We need a crisis, in particular for in the university discussion. I was reflecting to some people about what happened to the basic education in the townships when the middle class took their children to former Model C and private schools. You suddenly did not have class solidarity that you had in townships.

Zama Ndlovu, Deputy MD of Livity SA and founding MD of Youth Lab

If our higher education system is not in a crisis that is literally a show stopping crisis. What you will see over time is private education system will start showing up, and those people who have the power will move and then you will public education that is no longer a mixed class system. And then we will have the same thing.

Zama Ndlovu, Deputy MD of Livity SA and founding MD of Youth Lab

It is already reflected in the fact that TUT can all march at once and no one is listening and as soon as it is UCT all of us are talking.

Zama Ndlovu, Deputy MD of Livity SA and founding MD of Youth Lab

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