Tonight with Lester Podcast

Former Warden Warns of Jail


Guest : Edmond De Vries

An analysis of the 2019/2020 departmental budget shows administration and
incarceration receive far more resources than rehabilitation, care and social
reintegration. Of the R25.4bn allocated for the financial year, 78% goes towards those
two items (59% to incarceration and 19% to administration). Rehabilitation and social
reintegration — both key to Lamola’s plans for the department — receive just 12% of
the budget.
One of the challenges facing new Corrections Minister Ronald Lamola is overcrowding:
at any given time, SA’s prisons are about 38% over capacity — particularly those
prisons, such as Westville, near the metros. But Lamola doesn’t consider this a crisis; he
says the international standard for overcrowding is about 34%.
Tonight we are joined from the Free State by Edmond de Vries a former Correctional
Services Warder who was in the service from 1974 - 1981 -a time when prisoners were
segregated according to race and Apartheid was at its peak, we chat to him about his
time as a warder and how it affected him.

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